The history of Kettlebells
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David Turton
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The history of Kettlebells
Hi Dave,
I've just started training with Kettlebells and have been wondering about their "roots".
I've read that they've originated in Russia,Scotland,the Viking countries,and a few others....
What do you know of their history mate?
Ade
I've just started training with Kettlebells and have been wondering about their "roots".
I've read that they've originated in Russia,Scotland,the Viking countries,and a few others....
What do you know of their history mate?
Ade
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sort of mate ... my research is incomplete so I can only tell you what I know now.
They seem to have come from ESTONIA in the 17th Century.
They were named (in english) as they did indeed come from kettles... in Estonia (apparantly) kettles were big and they used old ones to fill with stones and lift as they do now.
In England they were first used in the early 18th century as solid objects first by albert attilla... in the US sig klein in the early 1900's
the same with dumbells .. literally "slient bells' they took the clappers out of cracked church bells, put shafts through the top rings and made dumb-bells
They seem to have come from ESTONIA in the 17th Century.
They were named (in english) as they did indeed come from kettles... in Estonia (apparantly) kettles were big and they used old ones to fill with stones and lift as they do now.
In England they were first used in the early 18th century as solid objects first by albert attilla... in the US sig klein in the early 1900's
the same with dumbells .. literally "slient bells' they took the clappers out of cracked church bells, put shafts through the top rings and made dumb-bells
Re: The history of Kettlebells
Strangely enough, Chinese martial artists have used stone padlocks, which are similar to kettlebells, for hundreds of years...
http://www.oldtimestrongman.com/blog/2009/02/chinese-stone-locks.html
http://www.atomicathletic.com/store/ProductInfo.aspx?productid=SP25 (scroll down for a video)
http://www.oldtimestrongman.com/blog/2009/02/chinese-stone-locks.html
http://www.atomicathletic.com/store/ProductInfo.aspx?productid=SP25 (scroll down for a video)
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the Greeks especially the Spartans used 'halteres' ... different sizes and shapes of stone, some very like dumbell shapes
man has always used some form of progressive resistance training, even the old Archers in England used to strap 2 or 3 bows together to practice their 'pulls' .. the orgin of chest expanders
man has always used some form of progressive resistance training, even the old Archers in England used to strap 2 or 3 bows together to practice their 'pulls' .. the orgin of chest expanders
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Hi Dave
Where did you hear that about archers? I have read a fair bit on them and never heard that?
Where did you hear that about archers? I have read a fair bit on them and never heard that?
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David Turton wrote:the same with dumbells .. literally "slient bells' they took the clappers out of cracked church bells, put shafts through the top rings and made dumb-bells
Well that's a revelation! I'd often wondered how they got their name.
...so it would follow that a "Barbell" was simply a longer bar with a bell on each end?
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actually they were first called long dumbells or two handed dumbells
the archers using two or three bows?
My friend at the Royal Armouries mate ... a very useful contact
the archers using two or three bows?
My friend at the Royal Armouries mate ... a very useful contact
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That is an awesome place! Will revisit this year on my honeymoon
Owing a 100lb warbow, thinking of pulling anything more is errrr, NUTS! I know it can be done and MArk Stretton pulled a 200lb one (insane), but that was first I'd ever heard about it, so any more info greatly recieved!
Owing a 100lb warbow, thinking of pulling anything more is errrr, NUTS! I know it can be done and MArk Stretton pulled a 200lb one (insane), but that was first I'd ever heard about it, so any more info greatly recieved!
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I take it these guys must have been very strong. Did using the bow lead to much muscle developement?
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Stevie, there is archaeological evidence for extreme muscle development and even bone deformation in medieval professional archers, particularly the ones who practised from childhood. Some good info in this article on the Towton mass grave project:
http://www.economist.com/node/17722650?story_id=17722650
http://www.economist.com/node/17722650?story_id=17722650
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Thanks enjoyed that article intresting they certainly made sure he was dead!
stevie b- Number of posts : 50
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the famous "V" sign with the two fingers also stems from archery.
during the may wars between england and france, when the french caught english archers they would hack off the two'bow pulling' fingers.
when the two armies faced off the englsih archers would raise their trist two fingers to show they could stil pulla nd shoot theirbows.
with the two bow 'strand/expander' thing the interesting (well to me at least) was that the swapped hands and pulled the two bows with right and left hands..... balanced strentgh training
during the may wars between england and france, when the french caught english archers they would hack off the two'bow pulling' fingers.
when the two armies faced off the englsih archers would raise their trist two fingers to show they could stil pulla nd shoot theirbows.
with the two bow 'strand/expander' thing the interesting (well to me at least) was that the swapped hands and pulled the two bows with right and left hands..... balanced strentgh training
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Did that mean they could use either hand to use the bow on the battle field?
stevie b- Number of posts : 50
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not sure about that although there are records of it
I meant they TRAINED both arms so they didnt get unbalanced development
like shot putter do presses etc with both arms
the Middleton Archers at Crecy and Agincourt averaged 15 shots per minute
I meant they TRAINED both arms so they didnt get unbalanced development
like shot putter do presses etc with both arms
the Middleton Archers at Crecy and Agincourt averaged 15 shots per minute
Re: The history of Kettlebells
Steve, they would all shoot with the same arm forward (being right or left handed didn't matter) as that would mean that you could get more guys into a formation.
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15 shots a minute is an outstanding rate to load (is that the right term?),aim and shoot a longbow.
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For this there wasn't much aiming as it was for the arrow storm.....
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"Up" is aiming,isn't it?
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So it was basically get as many arrows in the air / ultimately the enemy! as fast as possible to overwhelm them?
stevie b- Number of posts : 50
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just about
and the quiver idea you see in films was only to transport the arrows.. they stuck them in the ground and just tugged them out, notched and fired
and the quiver idea you see in films was only to transport the arrows.. they stuck them in the ground and just tugged them out, notched and fired
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