choke question

Hi

In a choke do you have to cut off the air supply to put them out?

Do you have to collapse the windpipe to do this as if you dont fully collapse it they can still breathe cant they?

Or is it the pain that makes this technique work?

And if you do collapse it is there a way back for them apart from tracheotoamy?


hope this makes sense

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a bit convoluted but yes it makes sense mate..

when you put pressure directly on the trachea (wind-pipe) you dont have to 'collapse' it to prevent them inhaling air.. any decent amount of pressure will cause the epiglotis and glotis to close automatically, thus preventing them from breathing.. so they experience a shut down.. then the brain passes out through oxygen debt.

The pain makes them 'spasm' which aids the shutting down process...

When anyone in my system learns chokes and strangles, they also have to learn the Kuatsu/kappo methods of revival at the same time..

a completely collapsed wind pipe does need surgery, but a CLOSED one doesnt.. it just needs assistance in re-opening it..

hope that helps mate

choke or strngle dave? what do you prefere?

choke or strngle dave? what do you prefere?

Just sit back for a minute, and try and imagine this question coming up in any 'normal' conversation

yes .. we must seem a strange bunch to the outside world Ha Ha

Do you prefer to punch a jaw or palm heel a nose?? etc

anyway I like strangles (even THAT sounds weird now Randoplh)

there's just a tad less danger of accidental death with a strangle.. a crushed larynx is pretty severe if the victim is left alone for any length of time

Randolf wrote:

choke or strngle dave? what do you prefere?

Just sit back for a minute, and try and imagine this question coming up in any 'normal' conversation

Or shall we just have the main meal

Hi

Thanks dave that helped.

Can you explain a bit more about the glotis and epiglotis?

Like what are there functions in everyday life and why they close down before the windpipe is completely closed.




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sorry mate .. I get stuck for time on the PC and because of all the admin work with the SDF, I dont have enough spare time for these forums as I would like..

The Glottis is the 'clack' valve at the back of your mouth just at the top of your throat .. the epiglottis lies behind it.. their chief function (they have several functions) is to prevent food from entering the lungs, by ensuring the right 'tube' is open.. you know when you sometimes swallow a bit of food and start coughing, the usual expression is "it went down the wrong hole" ?? well thats their job

when external pressure is applied to the neck they close to prevent (in theory blood, teeth or whatever from entering the lungs .. so on closing the 'fill' in the larynx and ensure that when the pressure is off that there should be a clear airway,,

its a reflex action, like vomitting... they can 'read' whether its food or air coming into the mouth and can divert the right stuff down the right tubes

not a pretty good 'medical' explanation but that about it regarding their MAIN function

Hi

Thank you for the answer

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